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#202819 - 09/19/05 11:31 PM Cecil 2 upgrades  
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I just ordered a cam sprocket and Mallory ignition with 2 step.
Who else is tweeking up for some racing?


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#202820 - 09/19/05 11:59 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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What box did you get(the 685?) and who pulley? Wait until you see the adjustable pulley on mine. It was made before timing mark were invented, unfortunately, I also bought it new

Bob Myers



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#202821 - 09/20/05 12:09 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by martin0660:
Wait until you see the adjustable pulley on mine. It was made before timing mark were invented, unfortunately, I also bought it new

Bob Myers



And you could have gotten one just like it at Carlisle this past year at the swap meet.


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#202822 - 09/20/05 12:10 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sluggo:
I just ordered a cam sprocket and Mallory ignition with 2 step.
Who else is tweeking up for some racing?


Looks like you may want to try the et streets. Bob, if he tries those et streets on the two step we hooked another one.


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#202823 - 09/20/05 12:13 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Yes, got the 685. Looks every bit as good as the msd digital 6, but $100 cheaper. I waited while you ran it for a bit to see if you had any trouble. Is there a tfi harness for it? And can I use the msd tach adapter?
The sprocket is a Race Engineering piece. I saw a pic of yours in your album. I might have tried to scribe a 0 mark on it while it was off? Just for reference.


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#202824 - 09/20/05 12:19 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
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Bob, if he tries those et streets on the two step we hooked another one.



I've been hooked since I started.
The BFG's should hold up. Now that I know they can be run as low as 10 psi.
I also found a used spring air bag on ebay a couple days ago. $7.31



[This message has been edited by Sluggo (edited 09-19-2005).]


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#202825 - 09/20/05 12:23 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Doug- here is apicture of my box mounted on the DS frame rail. What you cant see it that it is mounted to a couple of aluminum bars that are bolted to the rail, so its just not fastened at the top like it looks in the picture.

This is a great location, I brought all the wiring up around the front of the battery near the core support, then ran it back behind the battery. Why this is nice is that the plugs are all right there in the open. The box comes with a bypass connector so you can still run the car if the box fails. I've kept it in the console, but not needed it.

I did buy the mallory TFI adapter when I ordered the box.

I bought the mallory tach adapter, but it looks like the MSD one would work, and it looks like its made better. You will need it.

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#202826 - 09/20/05 12:25 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sluggo:
I've been hooked since I started.
The BFG's should hold up. Now that I know they can be run as low as 10 psi.
I also found a used spring air bag on ebay a couple days ago. $7.31

[This message has been edited by Sluggo (edited 09-19-2005).]



The few psi of boost makes a huge difference. There will be et streets there just in case.


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#202827 - 09/20/05 12:28 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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I will bet you will ditch the DR's after you try the ET streets off of a two step. It simply amazing how the car feels comming off the line at boost and with total traction. I'm smilling right now just thinking about it

I'm going to bring mine with me, so it sounds like there could be a few sets there. Mine fit without removing the quads mounted on 10 holes, so it might be easier for guys to try them. You will never go back, I assure you.

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#202828 - 09/20/05 12:45 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Bob, Thanks for the pic and the info. You got a lot of room there that I don't. Looks good! I'll monkey that thing in somewhere when it gets here.

Glenn, I don't want to need new tires. The BFG's have got to work.


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#202829 - 09/20/05 12:52 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sluggo:
You got a lot of room there that I don't.


Thats what I was saying before, I've cleared all of that space with the fan, narrow radiator, and V-8 overflow bottle. It's nice up there now

I'm not sure it will fit, but how about under the lip of the stock fan? I know the 6AL type boxes fit there, but these are taller.

Bob Myers

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#202830 - 09/20/05 12:56 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
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Bob, Thanks for the pic and the info. You got a lot of room there that I don't. Looks good! I'll monkey that thing in somewhere when it gets here.

Glenn, I don't want to need new tires. The BFG's have got to work.


Tom(the guy you talked to about the tire pressure) had an 89 turbo trans am. He ran them at 10psi(daily) like he told you to try. He regularly pulled 1.60-16.5 short times off the tran brake and stock suspension. They really should work.


I'll get a pic of where I have my MSD box mounted.


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#202831 - 09/20/05 01:04 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Here is where I have my MSD box mounted. Maybe your Mallory will fit here.


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#202832 - 09/20/05 01:14 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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I have a V8 overflow bottle, for my h2o injection.
The car has not been moved since Cecil 1. I need to look around under the hood and see what needs to be done to mount it. It needs to be accessible for adjustments.
Glenn, I'll look into that spot. Nice.
I think I'll go take a ride. All this talk is giving me a need for acceleration.


[This message has been edited by Sluggo (edited 09-19-2005).]


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#202833 - 09/20/05 04:04 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Since its being mentioned alot...... what is the difference/advantage to adding the ignition box, if im using the correct term. Is it in addition to the stock ignition or replacement. How does it work better, is it configurable? Thanks.


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#202834 - 09/20/05 04:07 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Since its being mentioned alot...... what is the difference/advantage to adding the ignition box, if im using the correct term. Is it in addition to the stock ignition or replacement. How does it work better, is it configurable? Thanks.



The ignition box is used with the stock(or aftermarket) coil. The only reason I have one is for the two step and launching with boost.


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#202835 - 09/20/05 04:20 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
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The ignition box is used with the stock(or aftermarket) coil. The only reason I have one is for the two step and launching with boost.


What he said. Heck I'll say it again.
Launching with boost!


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#202836 - 09/20/05 04:31 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Same here, I wouldnt have the box if it werent for the two step. I would not be without the two step for racing now that I have one

Bob Myers

#202837 - 09/20/05 04:34 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sluggo:
I have a V8 overflow bottle, for my h2o injection.


You can also use the built in window switch to turn on your H2O injection at a specified RPM And i geuss pull some timing based on your boost pressure switch too And add the map sensor and do proportional boost reatard I'll let you figure all of that out, and let me know hoe it works.

Bob Myers

#202838 - 09/20/05 11:14 AM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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I can't believe you guys, especially Ben, are not up to something.

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#202839 - 09/20/05 05:57 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Since you asked...

Actually, a box is on the way to my house right now!

The cargo?

8" Stainless Flexpipe
3" weld-on V-band flange
and MY 3" V-BAND CLAMP !!!!!!!!

I'm focused man.
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#202840 - 09/20/05 07:19 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by natmac3:
Since you asked...

Actually, a box is on the way to my house right now!

The cargo?

8" Stainless Flexpipe
3" weld-on V-band flange
and MY 3" V-BAND CLAMP !!!!!!!!

I'm focused man.
--n8


Somebody's bolting on the Holset.


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#202841 - 09/20/05 07:59 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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what? give up secerets? i'll let people know closer to the date what we're up to.

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...so you have a V8...isn't that cute...


86 turbo coupe (14.12 at 15 psi. sleeper) *gone*

...so you have a V8...isn't that cute...
#202842 - 09/20/05 08:08 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by natmac3:
Since you asked...

Actually, a box is on the way to my house right now!

The cargo?

8" Stainless Flexpipe
3" weld-on V-band flange
and MY 3" V-BAND CLAMP !!!!!!!!

I'm focused man.
--n8


WOW! Shooting for a 15.3 nate? you better use slicks if you want to go that fast!

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...so you have a V8...isn't that cute...


86 turbo coupe (14.12 at 15 psi. sleeper) *gone*

...so you have a V8...isn't that cute...
#202843 - 09/20/05 08:39 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Nah, don't think the clutch would hold up with slicks...

I'll be happy with a 15.5 first shot. Maybe I'll keep the spare IN the trunk, since I seemed to go 2 tenths SLOWER without it.

I'm also cooking up a way to keep some heat off the upper IC pipe. Should prove to be a little quicker next time down the 1320!!!

Cat. Converter just came down with a nasty rattle though.
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#202844 - 09/20/05 08:40 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Glenn 88TC:
Somebody's bolting on the Holset.



Hopefully the seals haven't gone bad from sitting, and hopefully it'll spool up!

We'll see...
--n8


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#202845 - 09/20/05 09:37 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
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Hopefully the seals haven't gone bad from sitting, and hopefully it'll spool up!

We'll see...
--n8



Which model is it again? I think you will be fine.


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#202846 - 09/20/05 09:49 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
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Since you asked...

Actually, a box is on the way to my house right now!
I'm focused man.
--n8


YEAH YEAH! That's what i'm talking about. A holset should knock off a few 10th's.


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#202847 - 09/20/05 09:54 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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Quote:
Originally posted by motormenace:
what? give up secerets? i'll let people know closer to the date what we're up to.



ET Streets? Come on, I can keep a secret.


Doug
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#202848 - 09/20/05 10:38 PM Re: Cecil 2 upgrades  
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I think Ben's got his hands full tightening up his cam pulley...

The turbo is a hybrid of sorts, bored H1C compressor housing, Holset center section, bored Hx35 hotside.

Specs I was given put it somewhere around a Garret 60-1...
--n8


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